diff --git a/selfdrive/car/chrysler/carstate.py b/selfdrive/car/chrysler/carstate.py
index 7986f8d6ab..905b46d813 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/chrysler/carstate.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/chrysler/carstate.py
@@ -46,7 +46,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
     # brake pedal
     ret.brake = 0
     ret.brakePressed = cp.vl["ESP_1"]['Brake_Pedal_State'] == 1  # Physical brake pedal switch
-    ret.brakeLights = bool(cp.vl["ESP_1"]["BRAKE_PRESSED_ACC"])
+    ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(cp.vl["ESP_1"]["BRAKE_PRESSED_ACC"])
 
     # gas pedal
     ret.gas = cp.vl["ECM_5"]["Accelerator_Position"]
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/honda/carstate.py b/selfdrive/car/honda/carstate.py
index 34fed58b3a..1c4da71a7d 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/honda/carstate.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/honda/carstate.py
@@ -248,11 +248,11 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
 
     if self.CP.carFingerprint in (CAR.CIVIC, CAR.ODYSSEY, CAR.ODYSSEY_CHN, CAR.CRV_5G, CAR.ACCORD, CAR.ACCORDH, CAR.CIVIC_BOSCH,
                                   CAR.CIVIC_BOSCH_DIESEL, CAR.CRV_HYBRID, CAR.INSIGHT, CAR.ACURA_RDX_3G, CAR.HONDA_E):
-      ret.brakeLights = bool(cp.vl["ACC_CONTROL"]['BRAKE_LIGHTS'] != 0 or ret.brake > 0.4) if not self.CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl else \
+      ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(cp.vl["ACC_CONTROL"]['BRAKE_LIGHTS'] != 0 or ret.brake > 0.4) if not self.CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl else \
                          bool(ret.brake > 0.4)
     elif self.CP.carFingerprint in HONDA_BOSCH and self.CP.carFingerprint not in (CAR.CIVIC, CAR.ODYSSEY, CAR.ODYSSEY_CHN, CAR.CRV_5G, CAR.ACCORD, CAR.ACCORDH, CAR.CIVIC_BOSCH,
                                     CAR.CIVIC_BOSCH_DIESEL, CAR.CRV_HYBRID, CAR.INSIGHT, CAR.ACURA_RDX_3G, CAR.HONDA_E) and self.CP.carFingerprint not in HONDA_BOSCH_RADARLESS:
-      ret.brakeLights = bool(cp.vl["ACC_CONTROL"]['BRAKE_LIGHTS'] != 0 or ret.brake > 0.4) if not self.CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl else \
+      ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(cp.vl["ACC_CONTROL"]['BRAKE_LIGHTS'] != 0 or ret.brake > 0.4) if not self.CP.openpilotLongitudinalControl else \
                          bool(ret.brake > 0.4)
 
     if self.CP.carFingerprint in HONDA_BOSCH:
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/hyundai/carstate.py b/selfdrive/car/hyundai/carstate.py
index fc36ce27f8..7e71461db6 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/hyundai/carstate.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/hyundai/carstate.py
@@ -134,7 +134,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
     ret.brakePressed = cp.vl["TCS13"]["DriverBraking"] != 0
     ret.brakeHoldActive = cp.vl["TCS15"]["AVH_LAMP"] == 2  # 0 OFF, 1 ERROR, 2 ACTIVE, 3 READY
     ret.parkingBrake = cp.vl["TCS13"]["PBRAKE_ACT"] == 1
-    ret.brakeLights = bool(cp.vl["TCS13"]["BrakeLight"])
+    ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(cp.vl["TCS13"]["BrakeLight"])
     ret.accFaulted = cp.vl["TCS13"]["ACCEnable"] != 0  # 0 ACC CONTROL ENABLED, 1-3 ACC CONTROL DISABLED
 
     if self.CP.carFingerprint in (HYBRID_CAR | EV_CAR):
@@ -229,7 +229,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
     else:
       ret.gasPressed = bool(cp.vl[self.accelerator_msg_canfd]["ACCELERATOR_PEDAL_PRESSED"])
 
-    ret.brakePressed = ret.brakeLights = cp.vl["TCS"]["DriverBraking"] == 1
+    ret.brakePressed = ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = cp.vl["TCS"]["DriverBraking"] == 1
 
     ret.doorOpen = cp.vl["DOORS_SEATBELTS"]["DRIVER_DOOR"] == 1
     ret.seatbeltUnlatched = cp.vl["DOORS_SEATBELTS"]["DRIVER_SEATBELT"] == 0
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/interfaces.py b/selfdrive/car/interfaces.py
index 0ebab681cf..a03e200826 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/interfaces.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/interfaces.py
@@ -448,7 +448,7 @@ class CarInterfaceBase(ABC):
     cs_out.madsEnabled = CS.madsEnabled
     cs_out.accEnabled = CS.accEnabled
     cs_out.disengageByBrake = CS.disengageByBrake
-    cs_out.brakeLights |= cs_out.brakePressed or cs_out.brakeHoldActive or cs_out.parkingBrake or cs_out.regenBraking
+    cs_out.brakeLightsDEPRECATED |= cs_out.brakePressed or cs_out.brakeHoldActive or cs_out.parkingBrake or cs_out.regenBraking
 
     return cs_out, CS
 
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/subaru/carstate.py b/selfdrive/car/subaru/carstate.py
index aa4e8acc8f..036dcbcd49 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/subaru/carstate.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/subaru/carstate.py
@@ -36,7 +36,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
 
     brake_msg = "ES_Brake" if self.car_fingerprint in PREGLOBAL_CARS else "ES_DashStatus"
     brake_sig = "Cruise_Brake_Lights" if self.car_fingerprint in PREGLOBAL_CARS else "Brake_Lights"
-    ret.brakeLights = bool(cp_cam.vl[brake_msg][brake_sig])
+    ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(cp_cam.vl[brake_msg][brake_sig])
 
     cp_wheels = cp_body if self.car_fingerprint in GLOBAL_GEN2 else cp
     ret.wheelSpeeds = self.get_wheel_speeds(
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/toyota/carstate.py b/selfdrive/car/toyota/carstate.py
index 88c8123229..b38a36f334 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/toyota/carstate.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/toyota/carstate.py
@@ -81,7 +81,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
 
     ret.brakePressed = cp.vl["BRAKE_MODULE"]["BRAKE_PRESSED"] != 0
     ret.brakeHoldActive = cp.vl["ESP_CONTROL"]["BRAKE_HOLD_ACTIVE"] == 1
-    ret.brakeLights = bool(cp.vl["ESP_CONTROL"]["BRAKE_LIGHTS_ACC"])
+    ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(cp.vl["ESP_CONTROL"]["BRAKE_LIGHTS_ACC"])
     if self.CP.enableGasInterceptor:
       ret.gas = (cp.vl["GAS_SENSOR"]["INTERCEPTOR_GAS"] + cp.vl["GAS_SENSOR"]["INTERCEPTOR_GAS2"]) // 2
       ret.gasPressed = ret.gas > 805
diff --git a/selfdrive/car/volkswagen/carstate.py b/selfdrive/car/volkswagen/carstate.py
index 2e2cb50e79..8b6a383579 100644
--- a/selfdrive/car/volkswagen/carstate.py
+++ b/selfdrive/car/volkswagen/carstate.py
@@ -73,7 +73,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
     brake_pressure_detected = bool(pt_cp.vl["ESP_05"]["ESP_Fahrer_bremst"])
     ret.brakePressed = brake_pedal_pressed or brake_pressure_detected
     ret.parkingBrake = bool(pt_cp.vl["Kombi_01"]["KBI_Handbremse"])  # FIXME: need to include an EPB check as well
-    ret.brakeLights = bool(pt_cp.vl["ESP_05"]['ESP_Status_Bremsdruck'])
+    ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(pt_cp.vl["ESP_05"]['ESP_Status_Bremsdruck'])
 
     # Update gear and/or clutch position data.
     if trans_type == TransmissionType.automatic:
@@ -201,7 +201,7 @@ class CarState(CarStateBase):
     ret.brake = pt_cp.vl["Bremse_5"]["Bremsdruck"] / 250.0  # FIXME: this is pressure in Bar, not sure what OP expects
     ret.brakePressed = bool(pt_cp.vl["Motor_2"]["Bremslichtschalter"])
     ret.parkingBrake = bool(pt_cp.vl["Kombi_1"]["Bremsinfo"])
-    ret.brakeLights = bool(pt_cp.vl["Motor_2"]['Bremstestschalter'])
+    ret.brakeLightsDEPRECATED = bool(pt_cp.vl["Motor_2"]['Bremstestschalter'])
 
     # Update gear and/or clutch position data.
     if trans_type == TransmissionType.automatic:
diff --git a/selfdrive/ui/qt/onroad.cc b/selfdrive/ui/qt/onroad.cc
index 78b492fc02..84e4a50980 100644
--- a/selfdrive/ui/qt/onroad.cc
+++ b/selfdrive/ui/qt/onroad.cc
@@ -559,7 +559,7 @@ void AnnotatedCameraWidget::updateState(const UIState &s) {
   latActive = car_control.getLatActive();
   madsEnabled = car_state.getMadsEnabled();
 
-  brakeLights = car_state.getBrakeLights() && s.scene.visual_brake_lights;
+  brakeLights = car_state.getBrakeLightsDEPRECATED() && s.scene.visual_brake_lights;
 
   standStillTimer = s.scene.stand_still_timer;
   standStill = car_state.getStandstill();
@@ -751,7 +751,7 @@ void AnnotatedCameraWidget::updateState(const UIState &s) {
     }
   }
 
-  if ((car_state.getCruiseState().getEnabled() || car_state.getBrakeLights()) && !car_state.getGasPressed() && car_state.getStandstill()) {
+  if ((car_state.getCruiseState().getEnabled() || car_state.getBrakeLightsDEPRECATED()) && !car_state.getGasPressed() && car_state.getStandstill()) {
     if (e2eLStatus == 2 && !radar_state.getLeadOne().getStatus()) {
       if (chime_sent) {
         chime_count = 0;