diff --git a/selfdrive/manager.py b/selfdrive/manager.py
old mode 100755
new mode 100644
index 77df540c4..7b255c5a0
--- a/selfdrive/manager.py
+++ b/selfdrive/manager.py
@@ -549,6 +549,10 @@ def main():
     del managed_processes['plannerd']
     del managed_processes['radard']
 
+  # we don't need appd if none of the 3rd party apps is enabled
+  if not params.get("DragonEnableTomTom") == "1" and not params.get("DragonEnableAutonavi") == "1" and not params.get("DragonEnableMixplorer") == "1":
+    del managed_processes['appd']
+
   # support additional internal only extensions
   try:
     import selfdrive.manager_extensions